As a Racer

[mojaveleclaire]

Wow this seems to be a way to familiar problem on the forum!! Here is my 2cents I think fastcat should be able to list his sponsors for, which he should be proud to be a sponsored rider and like the past problem with quad doc's review (which i found nothing wrong with) was removed off of the forum should have been left there. I think quad docs and anyone else's review of items and saying it can be purchases through him is fine as long as it doesn't get overboard with the forum becoming someone's personal website. Basically let the forum go like it is and when someone takes something way overboard then deal with the problem. As long as there aint a million adds from qdoc, or fastcat isn't beating his sponsors into our heads is fine. as for the classifieds I believe us club members should be able to sell whatever we want, as we are club members and it shouldn't have to be "club related". just my 2cents on the problem..

[Wait4me]

Businesses PAY to have their ads put in our magazine right? Businesses PAY to get their names on the Ad Bar (Google) on this forum right? Do you see the trend? If somebody wants to advertise their business on this site.......figure out a price and get it done. Heck, make another forum section for club sponsors to put up their logo and a phone number. If they want to update it with specials, new products, etc. good for them. I don't see a member listing their race sponsors as an issue as the member isn't trying to SELL anything. That is the difference. With it's own "SELLER SECTION", a bonafide business can sell whatever and the members can actually chose to look there instead of it being shoved in our face.

Maybe giving each magazine contributor a post for their business on this site would be a great selling point to solicit their help. Online ads are a HUGE deal nowadays and to get that exposure PLUS the magazine ad.....it's a win-win.

Non-businesses (us common folks) would just keep listing or stuff on the 'For Sale" & 'Wanted' Sections.

UBNPAST, could you give the businesses their own section, just like we have a member's rides section? Then each business would have their own thread under that section to use as they want or to just keep a logo and number posted there? I think it would solve this whole mess and let us get back to only fighting over Polaris being the reigning bad@ss quad of the 21st Century!! ;D

[mojaveleclaire]

that is a great idea waitforme a business section where the companies that pay to advertise can post info about business... I SECOND THAT

[450racer]

You did not do anything wrong Fastcat1 by listing your sponsors. Those people who gripe and wine about the situation, sounds like there either jealous or don't have anything to do better than gripe about something that does not concern them. Those people in the club probably don't even race themselves.

[Weck]

I know you're dieing for my response, especially since you are never logged in from home.

You've heard of Bill Engval's "Here's Your Sign"

With a twist.

Here's Your Shirt

[mojaveleclaire]

weck said:

I know you're dieing for my response, especially since you are never logged in from home.

You've heard of Bill Engval's "Here's Your Sign"

With a twist.

Here's Your Shirt

I have been waiting for a response on the locked Astoria topic, on why fastcat1 was told to remove his sponsors, and what about the "business section" ? I know some people in the forum have also made some suggestions but still no serious response from a board member for all of us to see.

[Weck]

Locked Astoria Topic = Ask Ubn

Fastcat was not told to remove his sponsors. He knows that.

"Business Section" can be discussed at the next board meeting. Would be a lot of work to do fairly ie: notify each dealer that this is available, set it up, etc.

Can you help start & complete any of the ideas?

[qdoc]

Any and all comments welcome.

If anyone wishes to not only promote the club,
but also wants to SUPPORT their fellow club members in any way shape or form then that would be true dedication to the club.

Whatever the board decides, then so be it.
WE ELECTED THEM to make decisions & next fall that priveledge can be revoked if enough people feel they are over-stepping their bounds.
The Board was ELECTED to do a job & club members should support their decisions.

[glow=red,2,300]As for POSITIVE ideas;[/glow]
Wait4Me's suggestion sounds like a continued refinement of a good idea.
Leave it to our Board to pursue this task, but as concerned club members please keep the POSITIVE feedback coming.

[ubnpast]

weck said:

Locked Astoria Topic = Ask Ubn

Fastcat was not told to remove his sponsors. He knows that.

"Business Section" can be discussed at the next board meeting. Would be a lot of work to do fairly ie: notify each dealer that this is available, set it up, etc.

Can you help start & complete any of the ideas?

If you have to ask about the Astoria post.... dont need that kind of senseless banter. I mean c'mon... there's a fine line and that was crossed. It was locked to eleviate further argueing. It's over, forget it. ;D

This forum is suppose to be fun, so lets all quit bickering and have some fun with it.

[mojaveleclaire]

I am all for fun again and for this issue to be resolved. I am not a club board member so i probaly wouldnt "do anything" but i will continue to give out ideas and speak out. There is a hard issue between qdoc and him being a clubmember and also paying advertiser. there should be a happy medium for this issue as in since he is a club member he should be allowed to do "some things" like a reviews, answer questions posted on where a item can be purchased at. As long has qdoc doesnt turn this place into his personal catalog of parts let him be. I make custom bbq covers (kamado grills if anyone has heard of them) and i only get my business through the forum. I do not pay for "advertisment" however when someone asks for a cover i respond to it. there can be a happy middle reached here sometime.

[xman]

Since the pot is uncovered and being stirred allow me to dip a spoon in!

If you have to ask about the Astoria post.... dont need that kind of senseless banter. I mean c'mon... there's a fine line and that was crossed. It was locked to eleviate further argueing. It's over, forget it. ;D

UBN your attempt to aleviate arguing and remove senseless banter has seemed to cause more??
Besides I had perfectly legit comments to add to the Astoria thread, and if senseless banter is ignored it quickly burns itself out.

[mojaveleclaire]

tell them xman.. ;D

[Wait4me]

ubnpast said:

If you have to ask about the Astoria post.... dont need that kind of senseless banter. I mean c'mon... there's a fine line and that was crossed. It was locked to eleviate further arguing.

This forum is suppose to be fun, so lets all quit bickering and have some fun with it.

Ubn...senseless banter?! Dude!!!! Of ALL the posters on here.....YOU have absolutely NO ground to even approach that as a valid stance to use. I like your senseless banter quite alot and would never want it to be put in check......but for you to try to argue that is like George Dubya saying the world should be more peaceful. I KNOW I have a "tendency" to pipe up about certain things, and I know I come across too strong from time to time but that is just the "Guardian of the Underdog" part of me. I have always been the guy who challenges rules if they aren't completely fair or applied to everyone fairly so YES, I wanted to ruffle a few feathers about the censoring PM. That's just me and as are most of my posts......just a humor-motivated stab at getting chastised for being me. I like to let loose on the forum as this is how I keep the fun-loving attitude going in between rides. I do apologize to Weckinator for calling him a 'Commie though. ;D As a member with a family, I know things get alittle harsh, but this forum has never been as bad as what goes on at the average ride, and you know that. If you want to clean things up....you need to prioritize alittle better anyway.
Just my $16.49 cents on the subject.

[grizzly660]

I dont blame ubn for locking it down . bad critism on his ridding skills, oh i can go because of a a holiday . bla. bla.You join the club to make time to ride............................

[mojaveleclaire]

okay maybe a "dealer section" could get out of control, however there is a fine line to be met here. I like qdoc's reviews and i encourage them to come more however our leader did not like the review of the foot pegs because he wrote "it can be purchases for $15 through me, or any other supporting dealer. I also feel like wait4me's question about rim dings and qdoc's response to either come by and check out these rims or come by and ill help you straighten them out. I think those were all handled like they should have been. I aggree qdoc can sometimes be a "little in your face" and he should be carefull that not everytime you talk to him that he has something to sell you. I have heard "rumors" of the club trying to stop him from bringing parts to the meeting. The last meeting qdoc attended where he brought the handlebars i had asked him to bring them for me to check out, as well as deliver my parts there too.. I am alot alike wait4me and where i also speak my mind, and try to get this club fair for everybody. here is my solution to the problem. 1. let qdoc continue to do as he was as long as he doesn't go overboard! (remeber he is still a CLUB MEMBER and a paying advertiser which is different from some businesses that pay to advertise) 2. Let us continue to talk the way we do on the forum as long as we dont get to "sexual" or "cuss" but let us beat around the bush as much as we want (remember we act way worse on the rides then talking in here) 3. Bring the smack talking it is what we are about and what makes the club what it is (MEDICAL TEAM IS THE BEST!!!!) 4. Fastcat1 should have never taken his sponsor ship list off because he should be PROUD TO PUT THEM DOWN AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD TO HAVE A "SPONSORED RIDER" as a club member. I love this club, and i don't hate anyone in the club yet however as a club member i have disaggreed with the way some things have been handled. I have had lots of experience with forums and i used to be a Moderator of a yahoo domino leauge and i have lots of constructive ideas. If someone would like to have me be a moderator, or come to special meeting to discuss some ideas and some constructive critcisim let me know.

mojo out

p.s. fastcat1 don't ever change the avatar it is still the coolest avatar out there...